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The Cancelled Radio Guys
Banter and Bloopers: Underwear Stories, E-Bike Adventures, and Hawaiian Dreams
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Ever had an embarrassing moment that involved underwear at Arby's? Trust us, you'll want to hear Chris and Costello's side-splitting story that kicks off our latest episode! We also pay tribute to the iconic Dr. Ruth, celebrating her life and the unforgettable advice she left behind. From jokes about relationship dynamics to our "original cancelled radio guys" mantra, we promise to keep you laughing and maybe even slightly offended. Don’t forget to drop us a line via our contact email – we love hearing from you!
What do Miley Cyrus, George Clooney, and RC Cola have in common? Apparently, a lot more than you think! Join us as we reminisce about the good old days of porch life with classic Southern treats and dive into the surprising musical talents of Miley covering Amy Winehouse. Plus, George Clooney's unexpected op-ed about President Biden has us questioning the political landscape, especially with the upcoming election. Swing states, strategy, and a sprinkle of humor make this segment one you won’t want to miss.
From e-bike disasters in the Rockies to dreamy Hawaii vacation plans, we're sharing our personal ups and downs alongside witty commentary on current events. Ever had an Amazon order go hilariously wrong? Yup, we've been there too. Whether it's reflecting on the quirks of family reunions or considering a move to sunnier shores like Punta Cana and Sarasota, our banter keeps it real and relatable. Tune in next week for more laughs, stories, and a whimsical prize that’s sure to leave you guessing!
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Hey, hey, this is Chris, hey, this is Costello.
Speaker 3Oh, we got the bloody video still.
Speaker 1I love the video. I know you do. You know it's good, we're good, but wait a minute Now. You see, here we go, abc 40 seconds.
Speaker 3I know you don't know, you can forget, but wait a minute. Abc Very much.
Speaker 1All big Clean shaving does make you look about three months.
Speaker 3You know about three months ago.
Speaker 1Three months, yeah, yeah, buddy, that three months is just gonna make all the difference in the world, that's for sure three months ago.
Speaker 1Yeah, three months ago. Yeah, I'm doing a lot better than almost three months ago. I feel like such a gift because I I'm trying to our uh, great visual effect in half's a happy movie. Couldn't have said anything. Pascal said there were earphones on. He picked them up. I could go up to his bed and he had some laundry on there. He had socks sticking out, the earphones were hanging off the left ear there.
Speaker 3He lied, he lied. It wasn't a sock, it was a underwear.
Speaker 1Either way, I think you reminded me of something about Marion. You had to turn the clip off of it and you had to put the clip off your headphones on this one. That's it. Is that what it was? Yes, what is that it says? Oh, that's all it is.
Speaker 3That's all it was not to get excited about. I had a friend many years ago back in oklahoma you had a friend, I yes and it was back in oklahoma.
Speaker 1I don't have many of those no wonder there's lonely, pretty limb, lonely back there.
Speaker 3Yeah, this was yeah, no kidding, uh, this was so, so long ago. I was working in orbeez, right, so he thought it'd be hilarious to come in there, and how he got a pair of mind-aware I don't know, actually I do. I don't remember who did that, but anyway, he came in into a crowded Arby's I'm serving up there and he picks up the underwear and goes are these yours?
Speaker 1You know, I kind of like that guy already.
Speaker 3Yeah, you would. Ken was a laugh. Yeah, he was a dreadful thing.
Speaker 1That's dreadful. Before you go, we need to have a, I guess have a moment of silence here. Okay, We've lost another one. You know, All these people are getting older, so they're all going bye-bye. So we've lost another person today. We do, yes, and the death of this person is going to affect your dick Really. Dr Ruth died today.
Speaker 3Oh my God, how old was she 96. Oh, I thought she'd be older than that.
Speaker 1Well, she always looked older because she was only like 4'10". She was a very small woman, you know, to begin with, and so I guess as she got older she probably turned out about 4.1. I don't know, but she's been. She always looked old. I mean, 96 is just a good long time, that's not a bad one, not bad. Yeah, she quit dispensing sex advice a long long time ago, I guess, because you know what that's right, yes, your answer with Dr Ruth.
Speaker 3Why is your penis not fucking? That's right. I don't know, doctor, you can find out for me Because you're not using it.
Speaker 1Oh, thank you, dr Ruth, you know what?
Speaker 3That's true. You don't use it, you lose it.
Speaker 1so I'm told I think we need a partner. I do oh, I love him yeah okay, well, on the weekdays, this is my partner, and on the weekends, this is my partner, and on the road weekends. Right to left, right, hand, left hand.
Speaker 3That's what the Trump dance is all about.
Speaker 1If you're really flexible, like Costello, you use one of your feet. Oh yeah, there you go Now.
Speaker 3I think we should mention that you are listening to the originally cancelled radio guys, not originally original cancelled radio guys, because I realized we start this thing and it's like well, who the hell are you? I'm Costello, that's Chris, and we need to just let you know that the reason it's called the original cancelledcel Radio Guys is because we do things that you couldn't do on radio before and we get in trouble. We've already did that.
Speaker 1We're still doing it again. We are as we like to call ourselves, and this is on our merchandise T-shirts. We are equal opportunity offenders. Offenders yes, no one is safe, and that's just the way it is.
Speaker 3And it's usually us being remarkably stupid, but we do like to make you laugh and it does happen. We do also, of course, have Chris and Costello at Yahoocom. You know, I checked that.
Political Humor and Cognitive Test
Speaker 1Yeah, there's like 700 emails there Not to be confused with Yoo-Hoo, which is, you know, I kind of like it you don't drink Yoo-Hoo. You never drank Yoo-Hoo.
Speaker 3Oh, that was that chocolatey stuff. No, no.
Speaker 1Look, this is fantastic. Yoo-hoo man. Well you know you're not a son of the South, like me, but we grew up with Yoo-Hoo and Moon Pie.
Speaker 3I came from a place where we are a little more sophisticated than that.
Speaker 1Well, you live in the South now. I mean you should be going to the corner market and get you a Yoo-hoo and a Moon Pie. Send your front porch and watch the world go by. That's what you do With a bottle of Yoo-hoo.
Speaker 3Yeah, you're a southerner in the summer, you don't?
Speaker 1have to do anything else. You sit there and get your Yoo-hoo, have your Moon Pie, stuff your face and just watch your neighborhood Moon pies.
Speaker 3I like, I like moon pies. Moon pies are great. And then, what's your down with your RC Cola? Right.
Speaker 1Yes, and if you have to, you can replace them with a Little Debbie, okay.
Speaker 3Oh, little Debbie cakes. Yeah Gosh, all these are really tasty. They're so bad for you.
Speaker 1Or, in your case, you would like a little Miley, but it's okay, I hear by the way, that I shared a lot of Miley Cyrus when she was in a Montana thing when she was 12.
Speaker 3You know what we were talking about? That song Back in Black right? Yep, amy Winehouse did. I found a copy of Miley Cyrus doing it, and boy, it's good man.
Speaker 1It's just a good song. So I like Miley, I'm sure with her type of voice. Yeah, oh, it is Kind of close. Amy's would be really good and it's interesting Kind of close to Amy's.
Speaker 3It would be really good. I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am, I am.
Speaker 2I am, I am, you fall to the world, I die in a hundred times, but then you go back to her and I go back to you. He left no time to regret. He kept his dick wet With his same old, same bed. Me and my head high and my tears dry.
Speaker 1Get home without my eyes Interesting. You know that.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Something new from Costello today. I have a question for you, sir. Do you like George Clooney?
Speaker 3George Clooney's a fine actor. You think so?
Speaker 1Yes, he's also got an incredible walk. Yeah, she's pretty. I like her. She's smart. Do you like him as a human being, even though we don't really?
Speaker 3know him Well. I mean, I think he appears to be a very pleasant person, likes to play prank.
Speaker 1He's kind of a funny guy, good sense of humor. I wonder why he I was just surprised he threw Biden under the bus, you know. I mean, he's like a major contributor to him and to Democrats in general. He even told Obama in advance that he did this. His op-ed was coming out in the New York Times and Obama knew about it in advance. He didn't try to talk him out of it or stop him. He didn't tell Biden it was coming, he just went.
Speaker 1I'm playing back on this one. So it's just really bad because you're trying to. You got all this group trying to defeat Trump, okay, and we all don't want to see that prick back in for another four years. I mean, who knows what the hell will happen? He wants to wipe out all kinds of stuff that we've had in this country forever. It's just scary. Having all this division is just not good. As you go down to home stretch, I just, you know, I just don't get it. You know well, I've seen the media pick so up to an incoming president before. It's like you're going to stay in. You're going to run Every time he speaks. You're like waiting for him to screw up, you know.
Speaker 3But he's been doing that a lot hasn't he, Mr Perlman?
Speaker 1Well, they all do Start putting some video on Trump again. I mean good, he fucks up more all the time. God, let it go.
Speaker 3Do you know what Trump's been doing? He's been in Mar-a-Lago.
Speaker 2What has he done?
Speaker 3He's been in Mar-a-Lago talking to the, I think. Is it the Romanian president for life? Yeah, I mean. But it's like he had, like you know, the same kind of little tea party with Putin and Kim Jong-un who else has he done?
Speaker 1Well, there's the Project 2025, which is scary. He wants to get rid of the Department of Education. I'm going to cut back, and cut back Medicaid. I'm going to cut back your Social Security. I'm just going to cut it off.
Speaker 3Yeah, I was going to say. I read that I thought, wow, this is one hell of a piece of propaganda for the Democrats. But it turns out to be true. We're going. Oh my.
Speaker 1God, this is scary. People got to realize what the hell's going on here, you know. So make everybody feel better. Okay, so I mean Biden, as you know, he's putting himself out there. He goes. The more I'm out there, the more people see that I'm okay. Maybe the better people feel and I'll give me that two or three percentage points ahead of Trump, which is all he needs to win that everyone thinks, okay, biden will probably win the popular vote, but he's going to lose the electoral vote? Hope not. He just got to win a couple of those key States that Trump's counting on and this, you know, like he did last time when Georgia, again he's got to win Michigan, ohio, pennsylvania. At least get a couple of them knock out the electoral thing so he wins.
Speaker 1So he's, he's out there. He was in Michigan yesterday. He's going to all these key battleground states. He's going look at me. He always tells people, folks, I'm okay. Since he's doing his big media tour to show you how desperate he is to let you know he's okay. He's coming on this show right now. If he's coming on here, you know he's pushing big time and putting himself out there. It took an awful lot to get him here?
Speaker 3no, it didn't last year.
Speaker 1This never happened this year. No, not a problem. Can he come on the show one time? You know, right now. So here he is. I don't want to hold him up anymore. He may fall asleep here he is our president, Joe Biden.
Speaker 2Wait, I'm the president.
Speaker 1Yeah, you are. You know, look, you're not starting off really good. And don't call your vice president Trump either. Ok, I thought you said I was the president. Look, you're not helping yourself here. What we want to do, simply, sir, is put everyone at ease and give you a simple cognitive test. Can we do that?
Speaker 2Is that OK? I don't know what that means, but let's go.
Speaker 1Just here we go. We I don't know what that means, but let's go, here we go. We're just going to say a word and you spit out the first thing that comes to mind when you give your word okay, oh, this should be good. Yeah, you dribble. Okay, so here's the first one. All right, dog Bite Old.
Speaker 2Me Cold Hot Bologna Correct.
Speaker 1Hot, not Jill. Okay, oh Loser.
Speaker 2Hunter man, transgender.
Speaker 1What? How do you say woman? What is transgender? Okay, all right.
Speaker 2Next word Trump, a big fat orange blob criminal, lying golf-cheating bastard with a piece of anic insulation stuck to his head.
Speaker 1Well shit, I think he's perfectly fine. Based on that answer, he passed the Cognitive Test. You're great, mr President, you passed, congratulations.
Speaker 2Do I get a trophy All?
Speaker 1right, get a freaking trophy, just go out and stump and just win the damn election so we don't have that idiot. Okay, thank you, sir. Take your pills, sir. Take your pills, sir. Take your pills. Go do a rally, do something. Okay, thanks for dropping by, we appreciate it, sir.
Speaker 3Thank you, go win this damn thing. You're welcome God.
Speaker 1I tell you Please go win. I think he said hey. Based on that last answer at the beginning, I'm going to get the right answer. You mentioned Trump. Yay, he came alive.
Speaker 3Do you know what would do this, though? Is this Article 25, right? If everybody looked at that? Now I just found it by accident. It's like what is this shit? Now I know what it is. That's scary. I mean, it really is.
Speaker 1You're asking people to read. Holy crap.
Speaker 3People don't read, but they need to they. They really, really should.
Speaker 1I mean, of course they should. If they did, they'd start to go. Well, wait a minute and they go. And of course he's denying he's a part of that trump is, but it's not true, because most of his former staff members and stuff who created it he's. He'll distance himself against that, distance himself against anything, just to get myself reelected Once he's in there. Just think about it. No matter what happens, whether you think Biden's too old, you want somebody else. You're going to call his party division, whatever, no matter who they throw at Trump, you've got to vote for that person. Just think about it. Do you want on day one? Do you want the dictator?
Speaker 3That's the thing You're going to get a dictator.
Speaker 1That's where you get the Hitler thing.
Speaker 3I was just trying to find it online, here you said it later We've got Hitler going on now. Everybody go look it up. You will not believe it. You'll just like going what Really yes?
E-Bike Troubles and Weather Woes
Speaker 1ladies and gentlemen, this is when you hear Trump the dictator yelling like that in German. It makes you wonder what he's saying. I mean, does anybody even know what he's ranting about there? Did he actually say for all those people, I'm going to kill millions of people, I'm going to take over all Europe. Does he actually say that?
Speaker 3Probably not, that's what. Trump said that's his ideal. I'm going to take over the whole world, kill everybody except for me.
Speaker 1Here's the funny thing. I hate to keep talking about it, but it's just so top of mind. We can't keep talking about Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez. Who gives a shit? Get together, get divorced, just get on with it. Ok, so we don't care. But did you say it's scary because everyone's going democracies online? That's the Democrats line. Democrats are saying yeah, you're right, democracy is online. Joe Biden's running democracy. I'm going what no, joe Biden didn't. In what way Democrats are running democracy? In what way?
Speaker 3You know, listen, his son took up. Son stood up and took a bow the other day and he's like 6'7" he's a baron.
Speaker 1He's a tall kid. He's going to be a basketball player. Melania's going to the background. She's going to spend all of her time to help raise her son. So hopefully he would be away from all this stuff, not hear all this stuff, not be a away from all this stuff, not hear all this stuff, not be a part of all this stuff. Doing the best she can. It's kind of hard when that's your freaking dad imagine having that as a dad.
Speaker 1I mean well, not too much. How many times have you seen father and son together? I think he went to his graduation, and that's about the only time I've ever seen those guys together, I don't know forever. That's about the only time I've ever seen those guys together. You know, I don't know forever.
Speaker 3So that's that's true, you don't right? I was thinking about that the other day.
Speaker 1I wonder if he's still alive yeah, I can hear millennia raising your son. Remember your father's a piece of shit. We don't need him in our lives. We're just here for the money, okay well, the money's nice place to live here, mar Mar-a-Lago, we have our own living quarters. We don't have to see him. No, you don't have to play golf. You know he's a loser. He sucks. Hopefully he'll be dead soon. Don't worry about it. Okay, keep feeding them.
Speaker 3Mcdonald's should do it. Remember when he had his first inaugural dinner. Remember that and it. I remember when he had his first inaugural dinner. I remember that and it was oh, it was McDonald's. It was McDonald's. Yeah, I can't remember who the dinner was for a sports team it might have been like a new somebody.
Speaker 1Can you imagine? You're excited. You worked hard, you achieved something, you get invited to go to the White House to be recognized and there on the table is a bunch of frigging Big Macs. Oh God, oh, don't get me started.
Speaker 3We've got to change stuff okay. We really do. This is, of course, the original canceled radio. Guys with Chris and Costello.
Speaker 1Yep, that's what we mean Equal opportunity offenders. We're all over Trump. We had fun with Biden earlier today, so it don't matter, we're all good. Yeah, yeah, we just had to round it out. We need to bring in Lizzo. No, let's skip that. Oh God, lizzo, wait a minute. I got an update here.
Speaker 3I was trying to remember her name last week.
Speaker 1I update here the update. I was trying to remember her name last week. I can't update about.
Speaker 3Lizzo here it is you ready, right?
Speaker 1New news on Lizzo. Come on, lizzo, give me Lizzo, she's still ready. Here it is. She's still fat. Yay, she hasn't been doing her Ozem, she's still canceled, I guess, in a way, right, she's very canceled, she cancels herself anyway. Yeah, that's true. I'm trying to figure out what happened here.
Speaker 1I've got one of those e-bikes, electric bikes. I'm here in the Rocky Mountains so it's very steep and stuff. So having that power is kind of good. I can go further than a neighbor go up and down these big hills. So I'm going to scoot down on my e-bike earlier this week.
Speaker 1All right, I'm kind of far from the it freaking just dives on me. Okay, I'm going shit and it's like it showed the thing before that showed full power, but I'm stuck. I'm gonna heal like this and it dives on me. I'm going, and without the power, because you can, you can pedal along if you want to, but when the power totally off and there's no assistant, this sucker weighs a ton. It's, I got a big one. It's really hard to pound, but I'm screwed, you know. So I it, I turn it off, give it a second and it comes back. It's going to be okay. Hit the gas, I'm going shit.
Speaker 1I had to coast and push and coast and push and climb. It took me about a freaking hour to get home. It's good exercise, yeah, great exercise. I was in traction, traction. I was in bed for two days, okay.
Speaker 1So I'm trying to read here what kind of troubles you, what I have to write an email, because I got an email in the back of my manual here. It says you have physical problems, call this place. So they said send this, send this and send this, send a little video, show your problem, send a serial number and an order number from like you know when you bought it, so on and so forth. And so I sent all this stuff in for them. That made me work for it, right, and they go. Oh well, I see you didn't buy the bike from one of our manufacturer stores. You bought from a sub store.
Speaker 1So, and based on the year model of your mic, a bike two years old, just so you know. Uh, you know, we don know. We can't cover parts for it. It's too old. You don't carry parts on your stuff from two years ago. How do you service anything? We'll have one of our technical experts drop me a note and see if we can help walk you through it, but we can't help you with any parts. If I've got a part problem, then I'm screwed, you know. So it's like a Highland. There's so many brands I don't know if it's a Highland, you know.
Speaker 3Highland. Is it just maybe a software problem? Perhaps I don't know.
Speaker 1So I'm going to have to go check all my connections, check that panel again. I'm afraid to go take a test drive. I'll be stuck down the freaking hill again because the only way I get out of here I've got to go down steep hills. If it dies on me I might have to be pushing this freaking thing all the way back.
Speaker 3That's where you get your wife to follow you in the car.
Speaker 1But this is so big. The biggest car we have is a Land Rover. It won't even fit the land rover in the back. It's just big. It's like a, it's like a Harley. I mean, it's just for an e-bike. I'm in there pushing this thing. All these other neighbors in the e-bike, I'm just going you prick.
Speaker 1You know I'm just waving. Hey neighbor, I'm just going. Fuck you. Thanks for not helping. Damn, it's kind of hot here in Denver. Right Yesterday was 102. Here in my athlete it doesn't feel. It's okay, it's dry, I don't care, it doesn't feel bad. They're having a big fit over back in Vegas where I'll be going in a week because I go half and half. They had 115 degree plus seven days in a row and it's still going. I'm glad I've missed that straight. I don't want to be in for that.
Speaker 3Maybe you won't be able to make it next week. There's no real reason for you to go there. That's it really. I work part time, but you work from home, so you don't have.
Speaker 1Sometimes I have to go see people in person. Some people want to be seen in person, yeah, even though we try to do everything virtual. Some people who are especially the local, because we have people come from all over, from different areas and states, of course, obviously they're all virtual and sometimes it's boring because they don't get to meet me in person, because I don't want to set things up for them. But the local people who live there they want to come in. You know they want to see the right person in person. That person would be me. So I have to go at least once every three, four weeks or so. You know it's OK.
Speaker 2So I'm trying to stretch this.
Speaker 1Wait for the heat wave to calm down. I have to go down. You have to wait until.
Speaker 3September for that to happen.
Speaker 1It's like 115 every day is a little bit more. It's going to calm down next week. It's going to get down to about 100, 203. That doesn't bother me, that 115 plus it just beats you up. They sent me back last week in Vegas. This week it's 120. A hundred and friggin' twenty.
Speaker 3Believe me, I know it, I know it, I know it. When I worked there I was a cameraman for a lot of the ESPN fights and Showtime HBO. We used to do them outside in seasons. You got this nice bowl of heat. Anyway We'd be out there and there's just tarmac. Oh God, it was miserable and it would get way past 120 because of the reason.
Speaker 1I know With that video camera stuck to your ear it'd melt to your ear. I like that Underwear on your ear today.
Speaker 3You know, stuck to your ear, you know, and they were the big ones too, not the little baby ones.
Speaker 1Oh, hell yeah.
Speaker 3I can remember I think I told you this story last week where if you look at those big dial thermometers, right, they have a little stick to stop the dial from going further around 120. Well, most places it never even gets close, but there, of course, the dial or the little hand is hanging on this little stick thing. So someone said, well, what if we took the stick thing off? That's how hard it is and it was yeah to stop the dial going past 120. Yeah, okay, and it did. It went up to like 130.
Speaker 1Well, I was out there playing golf last year and I thought well, you know, it's something like 102. Today I'm going to go out. I'm going to go out. I'm going to go out like 2 or 3 in the afternoon when no one's out there. So I've got the whole course to myself. There's a reason for that, but some holes are kind of low. They have thermometers that let you know what's going on, so take care of yourself. So I'm in one hole. I said I'm not feeling so good and I checked the mic. It was 129 degrees. You know, in that hole, iced tea and I'm like I couldn't.
Speaker 3Oh, the heat, the heat.
Speaker 1You're in the sticky south of South Carolina. What have you got going on today?
Speaker 3We've got part of the cloudy 95.
Speaker 1No, yeah, but you've got humidity like 80% plus. You know the humidity here today, just so you know, is 9%. You're sneaky.
Speaker 3It's at least 50%, if not more, expecting some showers later on, which will be nice.
Speaker 1Let's go and piss everybody off. I'm going to tell them some news. Tell them where you're going. Take a little trip them where you're going. Take a little trip Everybody. Where are you going?
Speaker 3Go on.
Speaker 1Throw it out there Going to Hawaii.
Speaker 3You suck, Sorry. My daughter said they were having a conversation and she said, oh, my friend's going to Hawaii. I said you know, I've never been there. She said, oh, we're going. I said no. She said you and me we'll go, We'll take Abby too. I go okay, Okay, yeah, Wow.
Speaker 1Shit Okay, which means they're buying you a ticket. She's buying me a ticket.
Speaker 3Yeah, and where are you staying? We'll find a hotel, a Motel 6, I suppose we'll find a hotel, a Motel 6, I suppose Everybody puts you up.
Speaker 2So you're going to Hawaii.
Speaker 1See, this shows that you raise your kids right a certain way, that they are giving back to dad they're going to send you to Hawaii.
Speaker 3I think Allison's idea is that if it goes really nice, all the things that have plagued me recently will all go away. I like that thinking.
Speaker 1You know, when you go there you get the ocean breeze and the beauty of the whole place.
Speaker 3I may not come back.
Speaker 1I can't have any stress going on at all, you know.
Speaker 2I don't know.
Speaker 1You're going to do your part of the show when you're in Hawaii. I want it outside, we want to see what it looks like and stuff. So just plan on that, okay. Okay, it is planned. So we'll be looking at you. We'll be looking at how serene and content you are. The rest of us back here will be nothing but a wind-up ball of freaking stress, okay.
Speaker 3Yeah, going with my two daughters. It should be fun because we travel well together. It should be fun?
Hawaii Vacation Plans and Family Relationships
Speaker 1Of course it would be fun, you asshole. You're going to Hawaii okay, never been. You're going for free and you're going. Oh, it should be fun.
Speaker 3You could go to Hawaii with some horrible people, and that would ruin the whole thing, wouldn't it? What If you went with your in-laws? I don't know what your in-laws are like they're dead.
Speaker 1So yeah, that'd be fine. We can take the urn.
Speaker 3We'll take the urn with us. Okay, Put them in one of the volcanoes so they can get an idea.
Speaker 1So when are you taking this trip? When are you going to Hawaii? When?
Speaker 3I don't have the actual. It's between October and February, as you said.
Speaker 1Oh, I thought you were going sooner, later this year. Okay, oh, I thought you were going to say later this year, no, no. Later on there's a possibility you could be doing Christmas in Hawaii.
Speaker 3There's a possibility, unlikely. It's very, very, very, very, although these things never happen to me. So I'm truly grateful to my daughter.
Speaker 1Well, this is the way it's supposed to be. All right, you sacrificed a lot time, money, whatever, because you wanted to raise kids. Of course, it's your choice to have kids. You can be a shitty parent by being a good parent. They went through a lot divorced, their mother's, gone, all those things. Here you are, you've been the rock. You've divorced, their mother's gone, all those things. And here you are, you've been the rock you've been. Now it's like you give back to the parents in every way you can.
Speaker 1I did the best of mine. I didn't do that. I didn't tell you why I went crap, but I tried to do everything I could, the best I could.
Speaker 3She gave you that bike, didn't she? My daughter.
Speaker 1Yes, she gave you that bike, didn't she? My daughter? Yes, she did. Yeah, yeah, she gave me that piece of shit bike and he straightened me down the hill.
Speaker 3You ungrateful kid Just kidding.
Speaker 2Love you. No, it's not her fault.
Speaker 1You know, I let them know what was going on with it because they had to send me the order number and stuff. So I got to send it to them so they could trace it back to what they could do. They're not happy about it either.
Speaker 2It's not your fault.
Speaker 1It's just one of those things. We'll get it fixed one way or the other, so not to worry about it.
Speaker 3I'm still waiting for my vacuum cleaner to turn up Vacuum cleaner. I bought a Hoover floor cleaner slash vacuum cleaner, who cares?
Speaker 1You bought that. You all care. You tell your kids to buy it for you. What the hell are you buying it for?
Speaker 3I bought it and it's never turned up. I'm still waiting for it to turn up.
Speaker 1It came from. Was that an Amazon thing? Yeah, from Amazon. My wife just bought some birthday stuff for one of her grandkids through Amazon. It showed it was delivered, but they never got it.
Speaker 3Exactly Same thing, same.
Speaker 1thing.
Speaker 3It happens.
Speaker 1I mean they do 80 gazillion deliveries a day. I mean none of it's going to be perfect, so I think you're really good about making amends, though, so you'll be fine.
Speaker 3Well, I hope so, because I'm almost up to my chin with dog hair. Well you've got to vacuum. I can't vacuum.
Speaker 1We did, we had to pull the dog hair out of the bottom of the vacuum. We had to do that this week too.
Speaker 2Fun stuff I heard about your trip, though.
Speaker 1The first thing I did, I emailed my daughter. I went to Costello's. Kids are taking me to Hawaii. I said so, where are we going?
Speaker 3And I got back we're not Not going Dad, Sorry, I said how about Florida she goes no. Oh, oh, downtown Denver. Well, no, they'll take us how?
Speaker 1about the creek in your backyard. We could do that possibly.
Speaker 3Oh well, never mind. Well, you've been to all the nice places anyway.
Speaker 1I have not, well, I have not been to Hawaii. I've been to probably every place in the Caribbean, you know Well. You've been to Jamaica, puerto Rico, dominican Jamaica, cayman, you know, st Barts, costa Rica, all that stuff. So that's all great. So I've been to Europe. I've been to your home. I've been to Europe. I've been to your home. I've been to London a couple of times. Love it, love it, love it. That's one place I haven't been. People tell me half and half People love Hawaii, or some people just go what's the big deal? I'm just going. I can't say anybody would think it's not a big deal. I know it's expensive. It's got to be beautiful, right? Come on. Well, let's hope so.
Speaker 3I mean, if it hasn't burnt. It was on fire this last week, I think that's Maui.
Speaker 1Is it burning?
Speaker 3again, Again, oh great yeah and I think that's where we're planning to go to Maui.
Speaker 1Well, there's the burnt part and there's the part that wasn't touched. It's still pristine and looks great. The best place to go is Maui or Waikiki. If you're going to one of those, I hear you're going to be in great shape. We have a lot of people in Vegas who I work with and have met, who are Hawaiians, and they tell me that's the place to go. They have family back there. The only reason they left and came to Nevada is because they didn't want to. It's just so expensive to live there, based on what they do for a living and stuff. Even though the money's okay, it's just not enough to have a good life in Hawaii. So they wanted to have a better life. So they have a nicer house, a better life, no money worries living in Nevada, but, man, they sure miss Hawaii.
Friends Discussing Travel and Politics
Speaker 3Oh yeah, they call it the Fifth Island or something.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, they call it the what, the Fifth Island or something they do. Yeah, that's what they call it. And you, you prick, you're going for free so that's all right.
Speaker 3Well, I'm sorry, I mean, it hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1No, you're not sorry.
Speaker 3Yeah, you're not sorry at all.
Speaker 1It hasn't happened yet so I mean you know Well, they wouldn't bring it up Everything they bring up they do. I mean, you know, they wouldn't bring it up Everything they bring up, they do. Your kids are great, everything they say they're going to do, they do you know.
Speaker 3Yeah, well, again, we'll have to see. I think priority on my end is to not be a certain boy, or at least not here. Anyway, I think we need to move from Columbia.
Speaker 1Yeah, no shit. We tried to have to move there to begin with, so I don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 3Get the hell out of here see, yeah, like I said, I must definitely be listening. Actually, she's going to Spain before that. Oh shit, jesus Christ.
Speaker 1Stop it, Good God man.
Speaker 3Well, I mean she works very hard. I mean you know she does lots of overtime. She has a reason to do overtime now and she's a 911 operator, so it's a pretty high-stress job.
Speaker 1That's another place I want to go. Spain is just like high on the list. Everyone who's ever been has said that's one place you have to go. Have you been there? Yes, I have. As good as they say it is.
Speaker 3It was a long time ago. I was a kid, but I do remember vague bits. I've seen it on TV.
Speaker 2I've seen it on TV.
Speaker 3You've been there, go check out the architecture. That's what I would do.
Speaker 1I'm just. I'm due for a vacation. Usually I go at least someplace once a year. Twice a year I like to travel. It's been like two years. It's a big stretch for me, oh come on Wait a minute.
Speaker 3You had a vacation when you went to the convention last year. Admittedly, it was just down the road from your house.
Speaker 1That's here in Denver, you know also. I know house, but that's that's here in denver, you know also, I know it's another big convention related to what I used to do and own, and it's this year and it's also here in denver. So I'm going hey, I'll go that, just check it out for a day, see some people and say hi, and just that'll be that. But I need to, I need a road trip pretty really bad. We're thinking of two things here. What we're considering is one is going to Punta Cana in the.
Speaker 1Dominican Republic.
Speaker 2Where is it?
Speaker 1The Dominican Republic. Punta Cana it's a beach town there in the Dominican Republic. It would be really nice. A lot of people recommend it.
Speaker 1We have a friend who owns two condos there. He goes. If you go, you can stay there for free. That's the big allure there. It's kind of like you, you freeload to Hawaii, I'm going to freeload to the Dominican Republic, or we're considering possibly going back to Sarasota, florida, to go check it out again because we have an interest possibly of moving there. So I said I told my wife, I said we're going to go there. It's still kind of hot, so you can see what summer feels like.
Speaker 1So you need to see if you can deal with that it could happen yeah, yeah, because you're born and raised in Colorado so you don't know what the humidity is like in summer down in Florida. So you've got to go down there for a few days and just experience that, see if you think you can deal with that Shouldn't be too bad.
Speaker 3I mean, you've got the coastal breezes and things. It looks like a really nice place.
Speaker 1I checked it out. It's a really she really likes it. We have no issue with the places. It's really pretty. It's kind of tough here. We live in the mountains. We love the mountains. When you're away from the beach for long enough, you want to go to the beach. You miss the mountains. People who live at the beach vacation the mountains. As long as you can have access to go back and forth to both. What's the problem? This is true. The difference is, if we were to live there, we'd be bypassing all the snow. I don't mind the snow, I actually like the snow. Snow and everything it has it's place there is like we'd be bypassing all the stuff.
Speaker 3I don't mind the snow. I actually like the snow, snow and everything. It has its place Out of my driveway. Turn your driveway heater on. That's hilarious.
Speaker 1I was talking to one of the people I work with and she's from Hawaii. I just go okay, she goes every day. The part you're going to okay Every day Never changed. Every day. The high is between 78 to 82, every freaking day.
Speaker 3I suppose that could get a little old.
Speaker 1No, it's not too hot, it's not too cold. That's really a great temperature to be at. It is Perfect, you're going out there. It's not too hot, it's not too cold. I mean, that's really a great temperature to be at. Yes, it is Perfect, you're going out there. You're not sweating a day. It's 78 to 82 every day. Imagine living like that.
Speaker 3Right, I'm packing my bags. Well, you are, because you're going there. That's awesome. I'm already going there, I'm not going to live there.
Speaker 1You may go. I'm leaving Columbia Somewhere.
Speaker 3Somehow Yep when I'm ready to roll.
Speaker 1There's a guy who's become a friend of mine. He's not from Hawaii, but he lived there before and wants to go back. But he's on oh the.
Speaker 2Elvis guy.
Speaker 1No, someone else. He only has so much. It's like fixed income. He gets disability, but he added it all up. But he found a place to live there and it's like 600 square feet, you know so. But he gets to go back there and live and it's like $900 a month in Hawaii. I'm just going. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1You know so. So he's moving there and he's going to live like that. He's going to downstate selling a lot of his stuff but obviously there's no storage or whatever. But he goes who cares? On the beach every day, 70 to 82 degrees every day.
Speaker 3So damn giving up everything else is important just to live that lifestyle.
Speaker 1You could do that in Cozumel too, perhaps Mexico. Yeah, why not Mexico? Why not? Yeah, I know people that's affordable. Very affordable Going back to politics. If Trump wins, you have to look at these other options. He'd go move somewhere for four years and then come back if there's anything left.
Speaker 3If that happens, we'll see.
Speaker 1It can't happen. Don't let that People. America we're talking to America Don't let that happen. You don't like Biden? Understand, think he's too old, understand. But look at the alternative. That's just all there is you have to look at. Look at the alternative. That's all there is you have to look at. Biden can't make it. You've got President Kamala Harris. What's wrong with her? Do you have a problem with her? She's fine, she's smart. She was a freaking prosecutor. She's educated, she's schooled, she's pleasant, she's nice, she's not 95.
Speaker 1She's less than 100 years old. Bingo, just to make you feel really sad, today I'm doing slow cooking, a pork roast. I'm doing pulled pork barbecue. Today I'll be right around, man, you should come by. Last night I cooked a whole red snapper. I like to cook, you know. I got the whole snapper. I love cooking the whole fish. That's great. A whole red snapper. You cut into it and he's like what did you do to the whole fish Head, tail, everything. It's really good.
Speaker 3If you're supposed to boil the head, it's supposed to be very good.
Speaker 1I can grill them. No, no.
Speaker 3Boil it later for soup.
Speaker 1I grill them. No, no, I mean boil it later for soup. Well, it's a good stock, yeah, fish stock, you know. So it'll be like you know, fish, that I can fry it. I'm just going. I don't like fried food, so I just really coat it well, made it really citrusy with a lot of lime juice and some seasoning, put them on the grill. Man, he was good. So flaky and moist. I'm getting hungry and today we're doing barbecue.
Speaker 3You're making me damn hungry now I'm making my homemade coleslaw.
Speaker 1My homemade coleslaw I already made this.
Speaker 3You made that when we were down in Florida. I remember that.
Speaker 1I made the crawfish, then Maybe that crawfish boil outside. How good was that? Huh, I made that crawfish then, man.
Speaker 2Maybe that crawfish boil outside.
Speaker 1How good was that? Huh, I made that crawfish boil and you guys never had it before and there was nothing left. The whole damn thing. You ate all the sauces, the shrimp, the crawfish, the corn, the onions. You ate everything.
Speaker 3That was us fighting over the last one.
Speaker 1Yeah, I got homemade coleslaw barbecue and also I made my salad, my strawberry red onion radish, my dressing salad it was great.
Speaker 3I remember you went over that trouble and somebody said I don't like this. Was it dope, perhaps I don't remember somebody's, that's why we don't speak to the prick anymore, okay, he yeah, he sent me something was really rude months and months ago.
Speaker 1He was really drunk, it was very obvious and then like, uh, we could wait a joke, mr religion, mr mr badness, southern badness, billy graham jr was yeah, yeah exactly, and then he, then he sends me hey, how are?
Speaker 3you doing? Oh yeah, it's like you don't remember the last thing you sent me, so I just sent that back to him. What was the last thing that you sent? Here's why I'm not talking to you right now.
Roasting Doak and Current Events
Speaker 1Oh, because he thought we were rude and we're ugly and we're nasty and we're just dumb people. And I think he just didn't like the fact that we make fun of him because we give out the Doke Awards.
Speaker 3Well, you know, I mean, we don't do things like that anymore. We should do some more stuff like that.
Speaker 1Well, if we could make a symbol of a Doke Award, we'd make just something of a platelet of his teeth. Okay, and just give that out.
Speaker 3You know how to hit a man where it hurts.
Speaker 1Well, look at this one. We first met and worked with him some 30 years ago. He was a young guy in his lower 20s. He thought, well, he'll take care of that. So he reaches out like 30 years later and we go, we think he'd be different, right? Well, it looks like he's giving birth in his third trimester and his teeth are the same as awful as always. And 30 years of that built up. Obviously you got gum disease and the breath could just like melt. This whole microphone.
Speaker 3Unfortunately, it's all true too.
Speaker 1Yeah, you were just being honest. Go to the freaking dentist. Okay, I mean, has he ever honest? Go to the freaking dentist? Has he ever been in his life?
Speaker 3Probably not.
Speaker 1There's probably only one dentist in West Virginia and he's probably not that busy because he's going. Oh, once he comes, the word of the day for Doak and he's never done. This is floss.
Speaker 3And brush and sw, floss and brush and swill and everything, everything.
Speaker 1Anything oral, just do it.
Speaker 3Mouthwash, mouthwash.
Speaker 1You know how can you get your life.
Speaker 3We can't all be perfect, but there you go.
Speaker 2I wonder what he means.
Speaker 1He likes to write songs that no one records or thinks are any good or gives a shit about. He should write a song about his teeth.
Speaker 3That'd be great. I woke up one morning to find my baby gone.
Speaker 1I breathed on her and she we call Bucky yeah.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, bucky's, I found my baby gone. I turned around and breathed on her.
Speaker 1He called Bucky. Oh yeah, bucky's. Yeah yeah, I found my baby gone. I turned around and breathed on her. Did you ever hear a song that Dope wrote? Did they ever show you some lyrics, or maybe try to sing you one? You ever heard anything that he wrote? Never did? Does he write Christian music? Is that what he writes? He writes Christian music. Does he Christian country? Well, country is Christian music. Is that what he writes? He writes Christian music. Does he Christian country? Well, country, is Christian music Christian country? Right? Yeah, not that my dog died. I'm drunk. I lost my truck. I screwed my neighbor's wife.
Speaker 3He probably did that and I broke a tooth. Yeah, that would be him.
Speaker 1He wouldn't write that. He's Mr Goody Goody, Mr Southern Baptist Christian boy. Yeah, he is. I'm Doe from West Virginia.
Speaker 3I'm a God-fearing hillbilly boy, I'm also a trumpet. Oh God, I forgot he is, isn't he? Oh, big time, big time. That's why we got into a fight, and that was years before we really realized what we had on our hands, holy shit. What he got really angry about was I put on Facebook or something I said you know, hey man, the emperor has no clothes. Remember that. Yeah, the emperor has no clothes, and he didn't like that. He didn't get it either. He didn't. What are you talking about? He don't have no clothes. He's probably got more clothes than you ever had. What are you talking about? He don't have no clothes. He's probably the more clothes than you ever had and probably the best clothes, because he only has the best clothes and they probably tell you that he has the best clothes. You know, he's got clothes he's got, he's got wardrobes full of clothes.
Speaker 1Another other freaking, you're missing the point when you're talking to an uneducated west virginia country boy, I mean, what do you you expect? Well, I would have thought that's the thing you've got. You know, doakie's a third-grade graduate.
Speaker 3Going to go for a dip in the cement pond.
Speaker 1He went to first. He went to Jethro Elementary in West Virginia.
Speaker 3Yeah, but where were those guys from there? Epson Buddy Epson, I think. He was from West Park Gold, the Jethro Clampett family. One of those guys from there, epson Buddy Epson, I think he was from West.
Speaker 1Park Gold the.
Speaker 3Clamping family. This is taking a really interesting turn. No, it's been fun, it's been a fun turn.
Speaker 1It's been great.
Speaker 3I love picking on the. We can pick on Doak. No, it's just that we should. There just hasn't been anybody other than Biden to pick on right now.
Speaker 1Well, I think that's why the media is so much over, because they're sick of playing Trump speeches where he spews out stupid shit every day. So it's like, oh, this is getting kind of old, so I got something new to go on now. So, like I said, you can't. There's the Clooney thing. That kind of made some people kind of surprised by it. Alec Baldwin his case was dropped yesterday.
Speaker 1Yeah, that was brilliant If we can't follow the trial anymore. I'm happy for him because it was like a trumped-up stupid shit anyway. So it's really sad the woman died, but I don't think it was any intent on his part.
Speaker 3Oh any intent in this part? Oh, none, none.
Speaker 1It's not his job to make sure there's real bullets in the gun or not. He's the actor, okay.
Speaker 3I thought, you know, when his defense was making that first speech, the younger guy of the two, he was brilliant. I'm going, you know, after that, are you even going to continue with this? You know, if I was a judge I'd just go. That's it.
Speaker 1Throw the case out. See what money and good lawyers can do for you. You know.
Speaker 3Like when I have my lawyers.
Speaker 1They're going to score a plea. I'm just going. Well, wait a minute. This is fight. Now just take a fucking plea.
Speaker 3Yeah, we don't want to go, we don't. Oh, these suck. I had an attorney who I had this case, if you remember, with the heating system here that killed me with the gas thing, and everything.
Speaker 1You're sucking in poisonous fumes at night when you're sleeping.
Speaker 3And he dropped the case. He said, well, I just don't think I'm up to this, I go. What I could do, this, I could do this, they're not paying him enough.
Speaker 1They're looking at it. He's only paying me me so much. It ain't enough for me to do this. I asked my guy once I go, we need to do it. He goes. You know it's going to cost you this, this and this. If we go do that, there's a risk that this, this and this could happen. What do you want to do? Everything he laid out was like don't freaking do it.
Speaker 3Same shit you went through Same thing, yeah, yeah. Well, after this week They'll be sick.
Speaker 1Oh, you know, you know what.
Speaker 3You're breaking up there For some reason.
Speaker 1Alec Baldwin's a free guy, dr Ruth is dead. I mean, I mean.
Speaker 3You know what's the point In continuing man.
Speaker 1Ellen DeGeneres Is trying to do Her final stand up tour. She's going, she goes. She canceled a lot of days. She's got a few more left. She goes. When I'm done, I'm going to be recording a Netflix special. When that comes out, I'm done with show business forever. You'll never see me again. Really, I'm good with that. I'm okay. I'm okay. I mean for a while there, her show was the shit. When it came to Dave Tynan, the Ellen show was big shit.
Speaker 3Remember when she was before she came out. Everyone's going oh, come on, she's gay.
Speaker 1Oh yeah.
Speaker 1And then when she came out that was a big deal on the show. That was good. I give her credit for that. Her show was a shitful lot, but you could tellictive, you know, and you know, I don't know. So it's just, and I guess she had that toxic atmosphere at work. So I just let her go. She wants to go, she goes. I've been canceled twice. Well, you know one thing you canceled because you came out. That wasn't your fault. But you came back strong. Your daytime show was great. This time you're canceled because it was your fault. This time you're canceled because it was your fault.
Speaker 3You did do something wrong. Yeah, yeah, I was thinking of the sitcom show she was doing originally.
Speaker 1Well, that's when she said she was canceled the first time because she came out of the gig. And then the show was canceled like a year later and she says because of I don't know, it just ran its course, but she came back for the daytime show. Good for you. You did a great run 19 years, but you're canceled now because of you. Now she's doing this Netflix special where they're paying her millions. She goes, I guess. So you get so much freaking money in the bank, you don't?
Speaker 3Yeah, you don't Talking of that, talking of so much money when I found out I looked at my account that I used to have to pay my car off right. Yep, and I'm looking. This is like plus 500 bucks. I got 500 bucks out of the deal did ellen, send that to you. I guess I'll send it to me, but it's like I'm in the state when they're going 500. Do I owe them? No, no, isn't that nice 500 bucks out of nowhere.
Speaker 1They gave you 500 bucks for whatever you overpaid.
Speaker 3Yes, I guess I overpaid at some point.
Speaker 1No, okay, did Doak send you some money as an apology?
Speaker 3Did Doak send me anything? You know, I think maybe I will move to Myrtle Beach after all.
Speaker 1You know what Doak sent you he to Myrtle Beach after all. You know what Doug sent you he sent you an autographed copy of his book. He did.
Speaker 3One of tens, not thousands but tens.
Speaker 1Of course you opened it right away and started reading it right away. Right, you know I did In fact I read it, you did.
Speaker 3I think I still have it here somewhere.
Speaker 1You went to the chapter about radio to see if you were in it.
Speaker 3I never did. Do you remember what chapter that was?
Speaker 1I never seen the damn book. I don't know. You didn't send it to me.
Speaker 3Guy hates my gut, oh I was going to send it to you, hang on.
Speaker 1I'll talk about his dental hygiene and him being a stupid redneck kid, but he didn't think too much of me. Oh, he does too. Imagine that. Hopefully, everybody can look at the professional backdrop of Costello's house, the gray sheet hanging up behind him okay, that is, it's covering up his unmade bed Shit.
Speaker 3That is actual photograph.
Speaker 1Is that a yellow stain on that?
Speaker 3sheet oh stop.
Speaker 1There it is. A crazy journey A crazy journey. You got a picture back. You don't see the picture. Is he smiling? I don't see them. Teepas, there he is. Look at him. Snaggletoothies, uppers and lowers are all fucked up.
Speaker 3Now, the thing of it is, though, everything.
Speaker 1The thing of the Opie barber who got his hair like that, Jesus.
Speaker 3He honestly hasn't changed in 35 years. No, not a bit. The thing about this is this lovely book that he wrote. He was a salesman at Super 102 WVSR in Charleston and so, of course, being a salesman, he wrote this book about some of the things that had happened. Right, and we're in, chris and I are in here. We've never actually found it.
Speaker 1yet I don't have the book to even look at it. So if you find it, you have to tell me what it is.
Speaker 3I'll have to. Obviously now is not the time to do this.
Speaker 1I wrote something. I work with these two assholes who are on air personalities there and they're going to hell because of the way they're.
Speaker 3But the funny thing is Joe Walsh, E-Z-E-N-N-W-A. Keith Sweet and Billy Ocean C-E-N-N-W-A. Keith Sweet and Billy Ocean, Ready for the world.
Speaker 1Where's the chapter that he wrote about that he's never been with a woman?
Speaker 3I don't know what do you call that blow up of a girlfriend of his what's wrong?
Speaker 1Yeah, he did.
Speaker 3Was he paying her or something?
Speaker 1He was paying her.
Speaker 3Oh no, he's paying her Something. Oh, here we go. Thanks to my lifetime of friends growing up from St Albans, we don't mention exactly the sighting, isn't it?
Speaker 1On that note we're going to end today's show. The squealer once again goes back to dope. Okay, Indeed, here we go. It just sounds like a family reunion when you play the squealer. The dope family Happy to see each other.
Speaker 2Wee, wee.
Speaker 1Wee Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant stuff. The Doak family reunion.
Speaker 3There you go, yep, the Doak family reunion. Exactly what that was. How did you guess you get today's grand prize?
Speaker 2Whatever that may be.
Speaker 3Well, the only thing I've got here is a bit of honey, so maybe you can have. This is your prize. Empty wrapper there you go.
Speaker 1That's the next cancellation prize. Thanks guys, We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 3Empty, sweet Wrapper of Life. Okay, mate, goodbye, bye.
Speaker 1Leave studio, there you go.
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